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  I need help finding 2 specific Awake or Watchtower articles from 70's or 80's regarding converting homosexuals.

  by paul from cleveland in

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  i remember reading at least 2 articles from the 70's or early 80's referencing people that supposedly changed from gay to straight while jehovah's witnesses.

  i can't remember the specifics or maybe i was just reading that into the article at the time.

  does anyone remember these articles or something similar?.

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  paul from cleveland

  krejames, I know, me too. It's all a pack of lies. I haven't been watching anything Watchtower for a while but I recently discovered their tv channel. One of the GB was blaming their pedophilia problems on gay men. So ridiculous. Every case I see in the news is straight men going after little girls. They keep trying to demonize gay people. I'm so glad I'm not in that prison any more.
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  I need help finding 2 specific Awake or Watchtower articles from 70's or 80's regarding converting homosexuals.

  by paul from cleveland in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i remember reading at least 2 articles from the 70's or early 80's referencing people that supposedly changed from gay to straight while jehovah's witnesses.

  i can't remember the specifics or maybe i was just reading that into the article at the time.

  does anyone remember these articles or something similar?.

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  paul from cleveland

  Zoos, It was these two articles that made me believe that change was possible. After I read those I thought I too could change. I spent 19 years trying. From about age 13 until I was 32. It's a long sordid story that didn't end well. My sister, never a Witness, is working on something and needed some information regarding my journey. If you're interested in the details you can PM me. I just don't want to put it out in public yet.

  btw, yes I no longer believe those stories of change. I think the person being interviewed was practicing "fake it til you make it". Pretending to be straight in hopes that by changing behavior the feelings would come later. Of course they never do.

  At the end, when I realized it was all a lie, I wrote to the Watchtower asking if I could meet the person who was interviewed. I didn't know, at that time, that they just send the letter back to the elders to deal with. The elders told me that they were sure the person wouldn't want to be identified because it would be too embarrassing. I said that's not true! If I found a way to change from gay to straight I would shout it from the rooftops and help others who wanted to change. The whole experience left be believing the story was made up.
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  I need help finding 2 specific Awake or Watchtower articles from 70's or 80's regarding converting homosexuals.

  by paul from cleveland in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i remember reading at least 2 articles from the 70's or early 80's referencing people that supposedly changed from gay to straight while jehovah's witnesses.

  i can't remember the specifics or maybe i was just reading that into the article at the time.

  does anyone remember these articles or something similar?.

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  paul from cleveland

  Thank you Heaven! I'm doing well.
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  I need help finding 2 specific Awake or Watchtower articles from 70's or 80's regarding converting homosexuals.

  by paul from cleveland in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i remember reading at least 2 articles from the 70's or early 80's referencing people that supposedly changed from gay to straight while jehovah's witnesses.

  i can't remember the specifics or maybe i was just reading that into the article at the time.

  does anyone remember these articles or something similar?.

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  paul from cleveland

  Yes, the second one was the one I specifically remember. Thank you very much!
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  I need help finding 2 specific Awake or Watchtower articles from 70's or 80's regarding converting homosexuals.

  by paul from cleveland in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i remember reading at least 2 articles from the 70's or early 80's referencing people that supposedly changed from gay to straight while jehovah's witnesses.

  i can't remember the specifics or maybe i was just reading that into the article at the time.

  does anyone remember these articles or something similar?.

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  paul from cleveland

  Thank you TheOldHippie, I think that was one of them. I thought there was another one where someone got married... I'm not sure.

  Edit: Sorry, I responded before seeing the second article.
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  I need help finding 2 specific Awake or Watchtower articles from 70's or 80's regarding converting homosexuals.

  by paul from cleveland in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i remember reading at least 2 articles from the 70's or early 80's referencing people that supposedly changed from gay to straight while jehovah's witnesses.

  i can't remember the specifics or maybe i was just reading that into the article at the time.

  does anyone remember these articles or something similar?.

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  paul from cleveland

  I seem to remember that they referenced some unnamed brothers that were formerly gay but became straight and went on to get married, etc. Of course that was a long time ago so I may be remembering incorrectly...
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  I need help finding 2 specific Awake or Watchtower articles from 70's or 80's regarding converting homosexuals.

  by paul from cleveland in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i remember reading at least 2 articles from the 70's or early 80's referencing people that supposedly changed from gay to straight while jehovah's witnesses.

  i can't remember the specifics or maybe i was just reading that into the article at the time.

  does anyone remember these articles or something similar?.

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  paul from cleveland

  I remember reading at least 2 articles from the 70's or early 80's referencing people that supposedly changed from gay to straight while Jehovah's Witnesses. I can't remember the specifics or maybe I was just reading that into the article at the time. Does anyone remember these articles or something similar?

  Thank you. I no longer have any Watchtower literature myself.
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  The hardship of being a gay Jehovahs witness.

  by truthwillsetyoufree in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  please spare a moment to consider the difiiculties faced by gay jehovahs witnesses.

  i was raised and baptised as a very serious jw.

  every waking moment of my day was lived for jehovahs and his organization and for nothing else.

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  paul from cleveland

  This is one of the major proofs that the Witnesses don't have the truth (to me at least). There is no place for gay people. There really isn't. The truth should have a place for everyone.
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  Just came across this jw comment on the interweb, what do you think?

  by disposable hero of hypocrisy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we are up for a new kind of persecution in the future.

  a new form that was unheard of for us.

  in australia, disfellowshipped and dissasociated are planning on suing jw for emotional and mental hardship for being cast out completely.

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  paul from cleveland

  Oh the poor poor Witnesses.... they're soooo persecuted.
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  Elder: I threw out all WT & Awake and only keep the last ten years...

  by adjusted knowledge in

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  i had a recent conversation with an elder from my mother's congregation.

  he with another elder was at my mom's house.

  my mother has all the bound volumes for both the awake and watchtower plus most of the older books.

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  paul from cleveland

  The Watchtower should come with an expiration date label: "Please consume information in the magazine before June 27, 2015, afterward it will be considered Old Light and should be discarded."